Sunday, January 2, 2011

Gatsby chapters 3 and 4

Chapter 3: Fitzgerald took the reader to a Gatsby party. What purpose did the party serve and what part of the party, specifically, did you find most revealing and how?

Chapter 4: Discuss the character of Wolfsheim. Why does Fitzgerald include him in the story--what purpose does his inclusion serve?

10 comments:

Brianna Beaupre said...

Chapter 3: The purpose of the party was to introduce another main character, Gatsby. The part leading up to Nick meeting Gatsby was the most revealing. It showed the ways in which people talked about Gatsby, and the rumors surrounding this powerful character. Many people, in the story, believed that he had killed a man, and that he did not go to the school that he said that he did. Also, another really revealing part is when Nick first meets Gatsby. It is the part that developed Gatsby’s character. It shows that Gatsby doesn’t like to brag about who he is because he does not come right out and tell Nick that he is indeed Gatsby. Also, that he is a very bust person with many phone calls to make.


Chapter 4: Wolfsheim is a skeptical, suspicious, barbaric gangster. He allegedly rigged the 1919 World Series, so he is highly involved in crime. He is a friend of Gatsby, and Fitzgerald includes him in the story so that he can show the dangers and crimes during the 1920’s. Also, to show that Gatsby does have friends and business associates. Wolfsheim represents the mob, and everything bad about the 1920’s.

Mickenzy Breton said...

The main purpose of the party was to introduce Gatsby and Nick to one another and to begin quite a lengthy relationship between Jordan and Nick. The most revealing part of the party was definitely when Nick found out that he had been talking to Gatsby for sometime. I think this is the most revealing part because Nick finds out that he and Gatsby had actually served together during the war. More importantly however, he learned just how good a host Gatsby was, Gatsby asked Nick to go on his hydroplane with him not long after meeting him for the first time. This seems like it could be foreshadowing of Gatsby being extremely generous and kind to Nick.

I believe Wolfsheim served several purposes to the story. The first being racial stereotypes of the era. Wolfsheim is Jewish, and a gambler. Even going so far as to fix the World Series. So he is a greedy Jew, something that was and still is, a stereotype for Jewish people. He also gives a few conversation points for Nick and Gatsby, such as the World Series, the fact that he gambles, and how popular he is in New York.It may have just been me, but it also seemed like he was used to show the fact that Gatsby may have had a lurid past when he explained how Rosy was shot. People don't just get asked outside and shot for no reason. Rosy, a man that Gatsby associated himself with, may have done something to the wrong people. It could possibly have been something criminally wrong, and they were just out for revenge. So Wolfsheim seems to have provided quite a few points for speculation, but no certain knowledge of anything.

Doug Fournier said...

Chapter 3: Fitzgerald took the reader to a Gatsby party. What purpose did the party serve and what part of the party, specifically, did you find most revealing and how?

Chapter 4: Discuss the character of Wolfsheim. Why does Fitzgerald include him in the story--what purpose does his inclusion serve?


Chapter 3 Response: I believe that the purpose for Nick to experience Gatsby's party is because Nick has never been to a party at Gatsby's for however long he's been living next door. Not only that, but he's been hearing new information about the host that his desire to finally meet him face to face was over the top. The aspect of the party that I found most "revealing" was how Gatsby could hide in his own party, by sitting at a table at the bar. Ironic, isn't it? How he can sit in view of everyone within eye sight and, yet, no one is able to see him, because they don't know who he is. It made me laugh to think that this showed the readers that no "close" friends were at the party of Gatsby, and if there is, they are extremely petit in abundance.

Chapter 4 Response: Meyer Wolfshiem is a gambler who, in 1919, rigged the World's Series Poker Tour. He's a tad peculiar in customs, and it seemed he wanted to flaunt the possessions he held, and seeing as he couldn't do so for Gatsby, he wanted to uphold the opportunity to do so for Nick.
The reason for him to be included in this book, I believe is to show, once again, the amount of money, influence and "friends," Gatsby has in the world outside of Nicks. It's to show that, he has friends everywhere and can get things if he so desired. It's just another way to show the resources at the command of Gatsby.

Devon said...

The party showed us how many rich people acted back in the 1920s. The party gave us an idea of what parties were like back then. People would just walk in unannounced. Gatsby didn't even know everyone at his own parties. The majority of the people at his parties would walk around, talking away until they were drunk and ready to go. They normally stayed for many hours.
The part I found most revealing of all during the party, was when we were finally introduced to Gatsby. We learned quite a bit about Gatsby in chapters three and four. Nick didn't even realize He was talking to Gatsby. If Gatsby never introduced himself to Nick he probably would of went on and insulted him. When Nick talked to Gatsby it revealed a massive amount about who Gatsby is. We found out Gatsby was in the Seventh Infantry, and we could tell he very friendly. He was so friendly in fact that he invited Nick, a man he just met, to try out his new hydroplane with him.
Wolfsheim was a very interesting character. He seemed to have many stories to tell. He told us about the Old Metropole and how his good friend, Rosy Rosenthal, was murdered there. He seemed to be a mysterious type of person, with many secrets. Fitzgerald included Wolfsheim in the story because he shows us another way people in this world get rich. Wolfsheim didn't get rich by owning something, or getting a good job. He’s rich because he fixed the World's Series of 1919. Surprisingly, he was never caught in the act. Wolfsheim shows us the bad side of rich people. The people who steal and cheat to get where they are, as apposed to working hard and getting good grades. Wolfsheim may be smart, but he still cheated to get where he is. I think he doesn't deserve a dime.

Melanie said...

Chapter 3:
I think the party served as a way to first of all, introduce Gatsby, and show that Gatsby, even though very wealthy, was not all about fame and every body knowing him. He acted like everyone else at the party and did not try to get attention, which shows that he doesn’t want to be more important than everyone else. It’s obvious because Nick couldn’t even tell the man he was talking to was Gatsby, because he was like everyone else and didn’t seem like he’d be the one throwing this huge party. An interesting part of the party was when people were gossiping about Gatsby. It seems rude to be talking about the person who is hosting the party, especially when they don’t even know them that well. Gatsby is giving the guests a great party and they give back is some rumors about himself.

Chapter 4:
I believe Fitzgerald included Wolfsheim to show Gatsby’s a different side to his friends, and maybe to show that Gatsby wasn’t always with the perfect, innocent people like the ones in his town seem like or the ones that go to his parties, but that he is friends with someone who was involved in a crime and who is supposed to be in jail. I feel like Wolfsheim creates some fear because there hasn’t been much about danger so far in the book, so maybe it shows that there is something to worry about with Gatsby.

Louis said...

Cahpter 3: The party's purpose was to say that no one had actually known much about Gatsby. The guests are usually saying Gatsby was a spy or that he killed a guy in cold blood in Germany during the war, but that is just crazy completely wrong. We find out that Nick had actually known Gatsby from when he was fighting in the war, maybe not very well, but he did know him. Nick was able to talk to Gatsby about some small villages in France, but he did not figure out that the person he was talking to was actually Gatsby. The most revealing thing to me was probably Gatsby's smile with a "quality of eternal reassurance." It gave me a feeling that he was easy to trust and a loyal person, and that is what makes him easy to like. It makes him seem less like one of those mean, rich guys.
Chapter 4: I think Wolfsheim is included to show that there was a shady side to some people and that Gatsby may have been one of them. Most likely, Gatsby had only been involved in something like bootlegging, which was a fairly common crime of that time. That is probably how Gatsby got the majority his fortune too. It also might be to show that Gatsby doesn't only have a bunch of people he doesn't really know around him all the time, but friends too. (I would have included him just so I could get that World Series involved. It was the only thing that mattered about the early 1900's. It showed the White Sox couldn't and can't do anything, like the Red Sox. )

Casidee said...

The purpose of going to the party was to introduce us to many characters and to inform us about who goes to Gatsby's parties. The most revealing part of the party to me was after Nick met Gatsby, he asked Jordan about him. Jordan told Nick a lot about Gatsby and Nick now knew who he was. This is important because Nick didn't really know who Gatsby was before, and now he knows about who his neighbor is! Nick wanted to know more about Gatsby, and now he does because Jordan knew quite a bit about him. The party was important to the book for us to learn more about the characters!

Wolfshiem is someone who isn't afraid to do anything. He is a big gambler, and he fixed the 1919 World Series. I would say he is pretty fearless. He was kind of rude to Nick at first because he thought he was someone else, but after he was alright. He seems like he wants to be a leader, and is always wanting more. The purpose of including Wolfshiem is to inform us more about Gatsby. (When Gatsby left to talk on the phone and Wolfshiem told Nick some about Gatsby.) This inclusion is also important because Wolfshiem had become a friend of Gatsby's after the war. Wolfshiem is an important figure in Gatsby's life because of that. Wolfshiem also works with Gatsby, so that’s also why he was included in the book. Wolfshiem is an interesting character and important to Gatsby!

Emily A said...

Chapter 3: Fitzgerald took the reader to a Gatsby party. What purpose did the party serve and what part of the party, specifically, did you find most revealing and how?

Answer: The party showed us how Gatsby lives, and what his life is like in West Egg. His life is filled with luxuries, fun times he has with people, many parties. It seemed that the party Nick attended was only one of many parties Gatsby has. The part I found most revealing in the party portion of the chapter was when Nick had just met Gatsby and Jordan starting talking about how he said he was an Oxford man, but didn’t believe him. Then he thought about what those two girls had said about Gatsby killing a man, and how Jordan had the same tone. I think that Gatsby had many mysteries to him and one of those mysteries is whether he went to Oxford or not and what he has done in his life.


Chapter 4: Discuss the character of Wolfsheim. Why does Fitzgerald include him in the story--what purpose does his inclusion serve?

Answer: Wolfsheim is a very interesting character in the story. He’s a old man, around fifty, who’s been a friend of Gatsby for a couple of years now. He doesn’t tell much about himself, but we find clues about him throughout the whole ordeal. Fitzgerald includes him in the story because he’s not an ordinary person. His purpose was to show us that Gatsby has many friends, not all good. Wolfsheim fixed the 1919 World Series and isn’t in jail, because he knows how not to get caught. I kind of think it shows us that Gatsby has connections with other people, many different types of people.

Lindsey said...

Chapter 3: The party was very important because I believe it served as a point in the book where a new idea will be brought about in the open. When Gatsby brought Jordan into the room alone to talk to her, I couldn’t imagine what he may have told her. But his words must have been significant if Jordan insisted on sharing with Nick later on. Since Gastby has so many rumors swarming around him, like killing a man, he could have come up with an idea for Jordan to help him clean up his reputation. Gastby gives him self a very mysterious image to other people, like going through Miss Baker to tell Nick something.
Chapter 4: Wolfshiem is a jewish man who is friends with Gastby. It seems that the two were discussing business and old stories when Nick walked in for lunch. I think Fitzgerald included him in the story as a character who serves a different type of person, but he is very knowledgeable. He had cufflinks made of human molars, and he had fine nose hair. He seemed to deserve respect even though we hadn’t found out who he was yet. As we kept reading, and Gastby left after being introduced to Tom, we were left kind of surprised. Maybe Wolfsheim did a little foreshadowing of what was going to happen, respectable, but very mysterious.

Alex said...

The purpose of the party is the give introduce the reader with a different impression of Gatsby and of what his parties are like. Most people would think that a rich person like Gatsby would have parties that only certain guests in a high work class would be invited but Gatsby lets anyone into the party wether they are invited or not. Most people that came to his party were not invited. This party was the first party of Gatsby’s that Nick had ever attended. Gatsby invited Nick to this party with a very formal invitation. The most revealing party of the party is when Nick is talking to a man about Gatsby and the man says that he is Gatsby. After a butler heard what he said he walked over. This really gives you an good impression of Gatsby, his own guests and butlers don’t even know who he is. Gatsby is a nice man that doesn’t feel like he needs to brag about how rich he is to everyone.

Wolfsheim is Introduced into the story to make you wonder more about if the rumors about Gatsby bootlegging and being involved in other criminal activities are true. Wolfsheim is a jewish man and gambler that claims he fixed the 1919 World Series. After Wolfsheim is introduced into the story Nick begins to believe that the rumors about Gatsby are true because Gatsby is associated with with this bad person.