Please read chapter 6 and then completely answer the following question that has been assigned to you. Please type the question from the study guide first followed by your answer. (You will find the questions on your study guide for chapter 6 that I passed out in class on Wednesday.)
Emily 15
Lindsey 19
Devon 7
Brianna 9
Mickenzy 21
Casidee 1
Dougie-doo 22
Shauna 24
Alex 41
Louis 30
Melanie 43
23 comments:
Why doesn’t Gatsby drink much?
Gatsby, or James Gatz, was close to his friend Dan Cody. After 5 years and 3 trips around the world, a friendship can grow close. After all that time Gatsby had time to see and realize what alcohol does to people. When Dan died Gatsby lost a dear friend, but gained money. He was affected by his death, so he drinks very little. Traumatic events in people lives affect them as a person.
What does Nick mean by the observation, "Perhaps his presence gave the evening its peculiar quality of oppressiveness--it stands out in my memory from Gatsby's other parties that summer"?
Basically Nick is saying that Tom's presence at the party made it the least enjoyable of the entire summer. Nick didn't enjoy it as much as the other parties because he felt that Tom being there made it difficult to enjoy it. More specifically Tom's standoffish personality, because Nick was associating himself with Tom and he has such a personality, other people didn't necessarily talk to Nick just to avoid Tom.
19. What is the meaning of Tom's comment about Gatsby's knowing Daisy?
Tom's comment tells me that he doesn't care for Gatsby too much. It seems that initially, Tom wasn't too worried about Daisy's knowing him, because she is always meeting "crazy fish." There was a little concern when he was wondering where he met her, but I think after Tom and Daisy had gone to Gatsby's party, Tom became a little more skeptical of him.
Tom also asked "Doesn't he know she doesn't want him?" which was kind of harsh, because what does he know? I think Tom's relationship with Gatsby will go nothing but downhill, which is expected... since Gatsby wants his wife.
Why is Dan Cody such an object of admiration for Gatsby?
Dan Cody is rich. He has millions of dollars. Dan Cody gets all of his money by traveling the continent looking for gold, copper, silver, anything he can sell and make money off of basically. He did all of this on his little yacht. Gatsby wanted all of this. Gatsby wants to be a millionaire, with women all over him, who can get money fast and easy. Gatsby wants to be just like Cody. What better way to do this then to work side by side with him, getting richer everyday with Cody? Cody was like a mentor to Gatsby.
Why is Nick looking at this party "through Daisy's eyes," and what conclusions does he come to by doing this?
The tension in the air, kind have made Nick see it as Daisy would. Confusion, lost, frankly, not having the best of times. And Nick feels this tension radiating off of her and Tom while Jay tries to impress them with who's at his party. The superficial party, unfortunately, doesn't impress either Tom nor Daisy, they see right through the "important" persona they seem to possess and analyze the "newly rich" aura that really makes up those persons.
"It is invariably saddening to look through new eyes at things upon which you have expended your own powers of adjustment,"
Basically points out that seeing something from another, heavily sorrowful, point of view, once you've already experienced it, partially corrupts the ties in which you associated that which is being experienced.
Why does he (Gatsby) continue with the comment, "I know your wife"?
Gatsby continues with this comment because I think that he wants Tom to think that Gatsby's competition for Daisy, that he's not the only man in his life. The way he says it, aggressively, tells me that he's being defensive and rather angry about the whole thing. Defensive because Daisy and him were in love before she and Tom were in love. Angry because Tom is the one that ended up with Daisy, a lucky man. Nevertheless, Gatsby wanted to make it clear to Tom that he knew Daisy, and that he should watch out.
What does Gatsby mean by the thought, "He could climb to it, if he climbed alone, and once there he could suck on the pap of life, gulp down the incomparable milk of wonder"?
I think what Gatsby meant by this was he was seeing a different direction that he could go, but it would have to be on his own, without Daisy. Perhaps this ladder was the ladder to happiness, but when he looked back at Daisy he had already reached that place with her. I feel like maybe he was getting second thoughts about kissing her, and if he didn't he would climb that ladder alone and be left to think about what could have happened if he kissed Daisy.
What is the significance of Nick's comment, “You can't repeat the past, “and Gatsby's response, “Why of course you can!”? Why does Gatsby want to defeat the power of time?
Gatsby wants to be with Daisy just like it was before he left Louisville. Nick tells Gatsby that he can't repeat the past. It is to late Daisy is married to Tom. Back in the time of the 1920's girls didn't have many rights they couldn't really choose to divorce there husbands even if they weren't happy with there marriages. Gatsby is so obsessed with Daisy that he refuses to accept that he will never be able to be with Daisy again. Gatsby wants to be with Daisy it is to late because she is already married. Gatsby wishes he could defeat the power of time so he could be with her.
Why does the reporter come out to interview Gatsby, and why does Gatsby fall "just short of being news?"
The reporter had came to interview Gatsby about what he had to say about the news about himself. People wonder how Gatsby got so rich and what he did to be rich. People had thought that Gatsby lived in, not a house, but rather a boat that looked like a house. The house boat contraption was said to move up and down the Long Island shore. I took that to mean people thought Gatsby was drug dealing all along the Long Island shore. Gatsby was just short of being news because of this rumor of the house boat. The visit from the reporter was very random to me!
Why does Tom want to eat with some people at another table?
Tom had been wanted to know more about Gatsby and he was listening around to see what he could here about him. When Tom said that he heard someone getting off some funny stuff than, i would expect it was one of those really weird rumors about Gatsby, and Tom wanted to know more about that rumor and anything else he could find out about Gatsby.
"What about Daisy's voice catches Nick's attention?"
Daisy was playing murmurous tricks in her throat. Meaning she was speaking to Nick in a soft low voice. She was most definitely using her flirting voice with him as usual. I don't know why it surprises Nick anymore because she seems to use this voice with Nick almost every time they speak to each other.
Emily:
I do not think that Gatsby was at all saying that he knew Tom's wife in an aggressive manner. I think it was more a dismissive comment, his final acceptance that he would never get Daisy back. He finally brought himself to say that Daisy was married and he couldn't do anything. She is old money, he is new money, and he is coming to that realization. No matter how much money he has, he is still new money, and nothing can ever become of these two people again. Friends, maybe, if Tom doesn't get to possessive, but anything more is impossible.
Response to Shauna's comment;
I agree with Shauna that Daisy was most definitely flirting with Nick. When isn't she flirting with him? After all, she asked Nick to tell her if she wanted to kiss her, let her know. That is an obvious clue that she's flirting with him. I don't think Nick should be that surprised, considering Daisy flirts with him every time she talks to him! I don't understand why this time Nick was so surprised, but it may have been because Daisy asked Nick if she wanted to kiss him. This comment Daisy made towards Nick surprised me, so it must have surprised Nick as well!
Response to Lindsey:
I agree with Lindsey. It was obvious that Tom wasn't going to like Gatsby. Gatsby is after his wife. Tom is so proud of his life that he thinks Daisy would never go after any other men and her heart would always be his until he decided otherwise. Daisy does like Gatsby but in the time period of the 1920's she really can't do anything about it. Women were not really allowed to divorce the husbands. Tom also doesn't like Gatsby because Tom and Gatsby are still not in the same class. Gatsby just recently got rich and Tom has been rich for many years. Tom still sees Gatsby as if he is a poor man.
Why doesn’t Gatsby drink much?
Gatsby, or James Gatz, was close to his friend Dan Cody. After 5 years and 3 trips around the world, a friendship can grow close. After all that time Gatsby had time to see and realize what alcohol does to people. When Dan died Gatsby lost a dear friend, but gained money. He was affected by his death, so he drinks very little. Traumatic events in people lives affect them as a person.
-Brianna Beaupre
In Response:
I agree that traumatic events affect the lives of others, heavily. I believe, however, that you've only grazed the surface of his reasoning. Not only had his friends death taken a toll on his decision making, but the actions that had taken place while he was surrounded by those who were intoxicated. The girls ran alcohol through his hair, while he was on one trip, and, frankly, I get the feeling he hadn't ever had the sweet tooth for that type of poison. I agree, also, that the conclusions, in which had taken hold of Gatsby's conscience mind, were reenforced by the passing of his first, real friend. But that brings me to another point.. was Dan, really a friend? Or was the ever cunning James Gatz seeing a road to riches with this yacht filled with drunken shambles, always living a superficial life, one might never know the true intensions of our newly rich partygoer.
Why does the reporter come out to interview Gatsby, and why does Gatsby fall "just short of being news?" The reporter had came to interview Gatsby about what he had to say about the news about himself. People wonder how Gatsby got so rich and what he did to be rich. People had thought that Gatsby lived in, not a house, but rather a boat that looked like a house. The house boat contraption was said to move up and down the Long Island shore. I took that to mean people thought Gatsby was drug dealing all along the Long Island shore. Gatsby was just short of being news because of this rumor of the house boat. The visit from the reporter was very random to me!
Emily says about Casidee: The visit from the reporter was random to me too, I found it weird that he just showed up on Gatsby’s door, inquiring knowledge of his personal life. Gatsby must have been surprised at the reporter, but I don’t think he would be surprised by the rumors about him. About the boat, I hadn’t thought of people thinking he was drug dealing, I just thought it to be about silly rumor. But I can understand by you say people connected the boat to drug dealing, with Gatsby actually being in the drug business and most likely selling to rich people. I was confused after this a little, did Gatsby tell the reporter about his personal life? Nick continued to talk about Gatsby's life and what he did and how he grew up and such. Which makes me wonder, did Gatsby confess to Nick all of this? I wonder. I don’t think Gatsby told the reporter about his personal life, especially that he changed his name from James Gatz to Jay Gatsby. Or that he lived in a boat with one of his friends until the man died and he came into about twenty five thousand dollars, which started Gatsby off on his fortune.
In response to Alex,
The last part of your answer was something that is easy to agree with. You're right about the women not really having the right to choose for divorce during that time. Because of Gatsby's obsession over Daisy, it's possible that Gatsby might be thinking of ways to remove Tom from the picture so he could be the only man in her life, and if he is the only one in her life than, most likely, Daisy would come back to him.
RESPONDING TO DEVON.
I agree, Gatsby did look up to Cody tremendously. Cody had the image Gatsby wanted. I think Gatsby looked up to Cody so much because Cody made himself wealthy without help from old money that was just passed on to him. Cody went out on his little yacht and sold everything that could possibly have any value. Gatsby also learned lessons from Cody, like drinking. Cody was a heavy drinker, and that showed Gatsby who he didn’t want to be. So Cody was a mentor to Gatsby because he taught lessons and shared experiences that were homemade. I think Gatsby was jealous of Cody, which gave him the drive to do his best and give himself a little self-confidence. When Gatsby saw Cody park his boat out on the water, I think he saw a chance to make it big. An opportunity that may not come around in his life again, at least not very easily. Without Cody, who knows where Gatsby would be, because Gatsby could do nothing but dream while he was laying on that beach, he had no clue where to start.
Louis,
You hit the nail right on the head so to speak. That's exactly why Tom wanted to eat with other people at another table. He wanted to gather as much information about Gatsby as he could. The more Tom found out, the more pieces there were added to his puzzle. At some point Tom would be able to put the pieces together to form who he had heard Gatsby was. A lot of rumors float around about Gatsby and Tom feels he needs to do what he can to figure out who Gatsby is. The more he moves around from table to table, the more information and more puzzles pieces he gathers. Right about now in the book Tom thinks Gatsby is a bootlegger. In some way that is true. Bootleggers are illegal at this time and Gatsby did get involved in criminal activity. Gatsby did earn a lot of money, but he did not do it the honest way. Tom knows that Gatsby is new money and he knows new money is never good news. I think that’s why Tom feels he needs to know everything he can about Gatsby, that and Tom is also just a nosey person.
This comment is in response to Doug Fournier's comment.
I have to agree with your comment for the most part. Daisy and Tom, they both come from old money. They know what it's like to be from old money, so they can tell that Gatsby isn't exactly from old money. So of course the party will fell like somewhat of a disappointment. Even though the parties are pretty good, and lots of people at the party are famous, Daisy and Tom still hardly know anyone. The mainly know people only from old money. Nick sees what Daisy sees, because he has kinda been there himself. Nick is from old money too. Gatsby's party is still outrageously big, flash, classy, and elegant. Gatsby still doesn't know what it means to be from old money. He tries to hide his new money situation by covering himself up with these humongous parties. Daisy and Tom can still tell Gatsby is from new money, no matter what his parties are like.
Response to Mickenzy:
I thought this too. Tom being at Gatsby's party probably made every thing very awkward and put Nick in an odd situation because of Gatsby and Daisy. Tom is a 'Debbie downer' and someone you wouldn't want to mess with in my opinion, so clearly Nick wasn't going to enjoy the party if Tom was around all the time. There was also possibly more tension with Tom around, because of the circumstances with Daisy and Gatsby, as well as just because of the way he acts and his personality.
What does Gatsby mean by the thought, "He could climb to it, if he climbed alone, and once there he could suck on the pap of life, gulp down the incomparable milk of wonder"? I think what Gatsby meant by this was he was seeing a different direction that he could go, but it would have to be on his own, without Daisy. Perhaps this ladder was the ladder to happiness, but when he looked back at Daisy he had already reached that place with her. I feel like maybe he was getting second thoughts about kissing her, and if he didn't he would climb that ladder alone and be left to think about what could have happened if he kissed Daisy.
Response to Melanie
I feel that you are correct about Gatsby seeing a different direction he could go . I like how you used that the ladder was the ladder to happiness, I think that Gatsby was envisioning the ladder. So, I agree with you on that. I also feel that he was getting second thoughts because he seemed to become more thoughtful the longer he was around Daisy. Overall, I think I agree with everything on this question, If I would have answered this, I believe I would of answered the same way.
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